Saturday, July 7, 2007

Knowledge & Tolerance Vs Ignorance & Extremism

The other day I was in a barbershop waiting for my turn to get a haircut. While waiting, quite a number of people, who were not there to get a haircut, were in the shop watching the West of Asia soccer tournament's finale featuring Iraq vs. Iran. As a person who loves sports, particularly soccer and MMA (mixed Martial Arts), I started watching the game like everybody else. It was an interesting match but in the half-time break, people were talking about politics not sports. What is funnier is that when the game ended with the Iranian team on top, the discussion totally shifted gears into religion. It was an interesting yet sad experience to see how narrow-minded most of discussion participants were. I heard many of what I thought are outrageous claims. It was the first time I hear that the Shiite Muslims got their own Mecca in Iraq and others interrupt "no,noo,nnnooooo, it is Iran." Another odd and shocking fact is spilled into the raging discussion; Shiites do their Haj or pilgrimage in Muharam, which is the first month of the Islamic Hijri Calendar not on Thu Al Hija which is the 12th and last month of Islamic calendar.
Up to that point, I had heard enough to be fueled up to take part in the discussion, so I started by pretending to be in the dark as to Shiites Muslims and Sunni Muslims. This strategy got things worse because everybody started exaggerating and cursing Shiites, the thing that pushed me to asking questions to those narrow-minded people. One of the questions I asked was whether Shiites are considered Muslims or not? Answers varied here some said they were but not good ones but the others totally said that Shiites are not Muslims and should not be dealt with, greeted, eaten with or even talked to. I wondered and asked how they would know the Shiites when they are totally not interacting with them. I really wanted to know the source of their ideas about Shiite Muslims. Some said they read books others heard imams in mosques speak such nonsense, some others watched some Shiite rituals on TV and started interpreting them however they want, and the rest have learned about Shiites through online forums. I laughed a bit then asked one of the participants what his Islamic subgroup was? He said, "I'm Zaidi." I told him if you really are why are cursing yourself then. He said he was not but he was cursing out Shiites. So I said don't you know that Zaidism is a part of Shiite Islam. He accused me of ignorance and stupidity. Things were about to turn ugly when they started asking in a threatening tone what I thought of Shiites. I simply answered telling them all Shiites and Sunnis are Muslims and it is ok to have differences.
Disagreement is inevitable and it does not mean we have to kill each other and hate on each other. I told them to use logic and take a good look at how Sunnis have many different denominations and Shiites as well. Differences exist everywhere and in everything. You should learn to accept the other and the other should do the same thing. I told them there are a billion and half Muslims in the whole world if not more. However, if we think the same way they, discussion participants, do Muslims would be much less and things would lead to a bottomless abyss. Finally I recited a verse from the holy Quran, "Let there be no compulsion in religion'' (2/256). Then I recited two other verses that are on the mark:" And hold fast, all together, by the Rope which God (stretches out for you) and be not divided among yourselves." (3/103) Also: “And obey God and His Apostle; and fall into no disputes lest you lose heart and your power depart.”(8/46). I said that Shiites plus Sunnis equals Islam and this how it should perceived. I felt so good about it but they chased out of the shop and I never got the haircut I was there for in the first place.

5 comments:

docholliday said...

BigMo,
I'm proud to admit we share the same love for this up and coming sport spear-headed by Dana White, the big dog of the UFC. Just like you I was hooked from the first fight. I guess I probably would have had front row seats at the gladiator tournaments of the past too though. That's just man stuff to the max. I caught your blog in Matt's forum and was captured by your question concerning Matt Hughes' religious beliefs. It must seem kindof odd that someone claiming to be a Christian would have such a brutal fighting spirit. After all, the Bible teaches kindness and meekness doesn't it? "The meek shall inherit the earth...". I admit, it does seem so hypocritical at first glance. That's what most non-believers say anyway. But if that's true, I guess there aren't many soldiers in heaven. Come on Mo, its just a game. In all my years of following MMA I've never seen anyone killed or even seriously injured for that matter. Sure it's one only for the toughest and most determined athletes, but isn't that what attracts real men? I am also aware that Matt gives all of the glory, win or lose, to his creator for giving him his talent, strength and ability. We are talking about the core of the heart and soul of all men. The creator designed us that way. But as long as we can discredit someone else's beliefs it seems to validate our own that much more doesn't it? I'm sure you have observed it many more times than I that this is the same wherever you travel. Everybody thinks their beliefs are correct and they're doing it the "right way" and yours is just flat out wrong. I am glad we at least have that opportunity though, some places don't. We often fail to appreciate that and many other freedoms available to us but whatever point of view taken, there is always opposition. It's easy to see that people tend to go along with whatever system they were raised under, then as we get older, we start forming opinions from sources other than family. This either brings them closer or further from their original ideas. The big question then becomes "Who is Right"? Not everyone can be correct. Why would a creator not allow his most precious possesion to not have access to the real truth? Personally, and I have been wrong before, but I believe there is one basic truth, and the enemy has done his job well to cloud it from most of us. I'm not going to attempt to persuade you one way or another but I do believe from my own experience that if we sincerely look only toward God for the true answers and stop counting on others or even our own selves I know He will not let us down. Matt Hughes like myself and many others who have earnestly been and continue to seek the truth through the Father are fortunate enough to have been given the best news ever told. Not that we deserve it or have earned it but only because of His own grace have we been saved. The honest truth is that I am not even close to being worthy of His grace yet He still has accepted me as I am. Enough preaching. Welcome to a place where you can openly state your beliefs and practice it freely. I agree we all should be quick to accept anyone without predjudice but there is evil in every corner of the world as well as our own and it would be foolish to not be cautious. How quickly would I be accepted practicing my beliefs in your home town. Anyway, GO TEAM HUGHES!

BigMasterMo said...

docholliday, , thanks for taking the time and effort to write me. Let me say something: If we ever meet in person you would probably find me to be anything but a prejudiced person. I actually do not oppose any system of belief whatever it is. I, a Muslim, have lived with Christians, Jews and Atheists and believe disagreement does not necessarily mean animosity or hatred. We all can have our own beliefs and still coexist peacefully. It is my personal belief that Muslims, Christians and Jews in particular worship the same God but we follow somewhat different paths in doing so. I do agree with you on the idea of everyone believing their system of belief is the right one but I strongly disagree with pushing them on others or trying to sway others their way. If one believes their path leads to heaven, then they should follow it and not bother others nor damage the reputation of others’ paths or beliefs. As to Matt Hughes, the guy is an incredible athlete and I always loved him but I was shocked with the way he dealt with Rashad Evens and Jason in season 2 and honestly Hughes’s actions seem to convey the impression of him being egotistical but he might not and I’m in no position to judge him because I do not know the guy. I like Hughes, the fighter, because I know him through his performance in the octagon, however, I kind of want to distance myself from Hughes, the coach, because through season 2 and 6 he has not been pleasantly impressive (his coaching style is pretty impressive though a training center is not the right place for preaching but the way he conducts himself with his fighters and competitors). Bye the way, I wish team Hughes all the best but I honestly lean towards Team Serra more. The important thing is to watch a heating clean competition and may the best team win. One last thing, if you ever visit my hometown then you will be my endeared and honored guest.

Later,
bigmo

docholliday said...

Hey Big Mo,
I was hoping you would respond. You sound like a cool guy and I never assumed you to be predjudice. I feel the same way about the Season 2 Matt Hughes. Being a big fan prior, I lost a lot of respect for him during that time and actually liked Serra much more then. It was really disappointing how he treated people and his cockiness had me hoping to see him get beat soon. Well, it happened. I wonder if it was that event that made him re-evaluate his motives. What impresses me right now is the way Hughes' life has turned 180 degrees from the person he was not so long ago. Something drastic must have happened within his soul that changed his outlook on everything. He is not the same person at all. Is he now always that perfect shining example, never to let his fans down? No way. Not by a long shot. I believe his intentions were good when he handed out bibles, but you're right, maybe it wasn't the right time and place. That's the way it appeared to everybody and it irritated many. For me, it's nice to see someone catch the fever and run with it. He obviously isn't ashamed of his new love. But, sometimes when we get real excited and our passions are running high about something, we expect everyone else to share the same emotions. One point is certain though, that his actions did get people stirring and a least thinking. I guess it proved to be far more effective than it was intended. Forcing anything down someone's throat is always the worst approach. It's really not our responsibility to convince people that our way is the truth, although I do believe were put here to lead others in the direction of the Savior then let Him do the rest. The cool thing is we don't have to prove anything to anybody. It's a shame when our pride gets in the way sometimes and screws up our witness to the very people we are hoping to reach. In a nutshell, I know Hughes isn't "all that" but, I can relate to his life change because I also have experienced the same, first-hand, and it is really exciting and very real. Something you just want to tell the world. Thanks again and I appreciate the conversation Mo. You sound like you have a good heart. Please, help me with something. Can you share any thoughts of what it is like to be a Muslim. Is there any sort of personal relationship associated with it or is it more just a general belief. Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm just curious.

BigMasterMo said...

Honestly, it doesn’t interest me much if smoothing drastic has changed Matt Hughes’ life or not. If it happened and made him a better person, then that’s great from matt Hughes not me. Matt Hughes can be as proud of his faith as he wishes no one can blame him for that, but again if he manages to perfect himself and in doing so get himself to heaven then this would be his biggest achievement. My point is to improve you and get as close to being perfect as possible. If you believe you’ve done so, you might consider showing others “the light” or the right way. Now, being a Muslim is, for me, an amazing thing. My relationship with God is unique and every person’s relationship with God or whatever higher power they believe in is kind of unique. Generally speaking, all Muslims pray to god five times a day which means their relationship is constantly polishing and strengthening. We believe god is pulling the strings of our lives and so we see his greatness and glorify him in all aspects of our lives. Some people may disagree with me but this the way I see it. Believe me when I tell that the Islam portrayed and perceived in the U.S is nothing but a distorted image of Islam and this is due a number of factors. If any one wants to know the truth of something or someone they would do but some people want to believe what they see not see what they believe. I bet if I train with in Hughes’s camp I would be the odd cookie in the batch. I’m sure people there would try swaying me their way using many different techniques and methods and this could apply to any environment that believes in “spreading the word” whether Jewish or Islamic. Imam Ja’far Al-sadiq (check wikipedia) urged his believers to be “silent callers”, in other words “spreading the word” should be by being a good role-model. Let your actions and behavior speak for you. When people see you as a great person who is always doing good for himself and his community then people would wonder what makes this person so good, what system of beliefs instruct someone to be this good and that’s how you can influential without bothering or stirring anyone’s feelings. We can talk more about Islam & Christianity if you wish. As to me getting your question the wrong way, don’t worry about it. I’d rather talk to people and help ameliorate the image of Islam than not talk and help confirm the already deformed image of Islam.

Take care,

Mo

docholliday said...

Thanks BigMo, I appreciate your time and comments.